living tribunal vs one above all

New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the whowouldwin community. Are you? @claymore1998: @claymore1998: “And isn't you post merely your idea backed by nothing? And Beyonder was said to be only infinitely-dimensional. There is no mention of it being just cosmic hierarchy. (The only reason that Oblivion is “subject to the Living Tribunal’s authority” is because the Living Tribunal is the embodiment of multiversal law and order. Thanos (With Heart of the Universe; HOTU is actually a fraction of TOAA's power thus making him basically omnipotent. I have that exact link in my first post. If Oblivion ends up to be stronger than LT then LT really needs to prove himself because then the list would consist of: Oblivion, HOTU Thanos, God Doom, Lucifer Morningstar, Michael Demiurgos, WF Mr Mxyzptlk, WF Bat Mite, PR Beyonder, PR Molecule Man, Fulcrum, The Beyonders ... of course these are all arguable but you get my point. Actually let's pull some scans, don't seem like you are going to agree without it. Living Tribunal is just a league above them, having recreated a destroyed eternity with a simple gesture, to holding 2 eternities in each of his hand deciding whether to wipe out either of them. 0. Also, you weren’t even referring to the government-like heirarchy which makes it even better, because Oblivion is boundlessly above Death thus deeming that statement unusable as Oblivion could do the same. Oblivion stomps. In terms of sheer power, it has been stated numerous times that they are inferior to him and he could easy destroy all of them. Pr bayonder can probaby turn him into something else that is defeatable and then strip him out of his powers then destroy him. Which means they were not fighting. . Another thing to note is that Oblivion is stated to “precede the existence of this multiverse” whilst the Living Tribunal has only “existed since the multiverse came into being”. The level determines the final score, of the Super Power, being used in the calculation. You are really ignorant enough to belief that LT is beyond PR Beyonder?? Living Tribunal easily stops Giorno but I don't think he'd even get that far. I have that exact link in my first post. Oblivion is all that -- and more. The Living Tribunal wins! At this rate The Living Tribunal won't even be top 10 in Marvel anymore and that will not make LT fans happy lol. Friend, you could have merely just asked rather than being rude. He's also the superior master of the cosmic overseer and judge known as the Living Tribunal. I am not sure what you guys are talking about. Why? Fair enough my man. Depends on version. Now I do agree in this story it's never said Oblivion would be destroyed, but obviously if someone can force Oblivion to be his slave that seem to suggest he/she would have power to destroy oblivion should he choose to. Da. But this is not about them, we are discussing Living Tribunal vs Obvilion. Link for proof: https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11130/111302904/5815812-4044943104-latest), Living Tribunal (The abstract, cosmic embodiment of multiversal law and order, and the collective manifestation of all existence, alongside all lesser abstract entities. That's not what I am saying at all, friend. If you can destroy concepts like time, or reality why would concept of nothing be beyond such beings? One Above All wins! That... doesn't make sense. I don’t normally answer questions like this but I have decided to make an exception. The Beyonder is still merely a manifestation when compared to Oblivion. Well, if you studied the Protege scan more carefully, you would see that he was manifesting as a copy of the TRIBUNAL. Oblivion is nothingness. Oblivion is a counterpart to Eternity, Infinity, and Death in the balancing cosmic “govenment”-like hierarchy system, but not the power hierarchy. LT being stated to be second only to The One Above all, here you go. Characters Battles Teams Super Powers Forum Feed Collections. But Oblivion... Has nothing.”. 0. As it seems an aspect of this universe is actively resisting my attempts, always bringing it back to a stable state. Who will win in a fight between One Above All and The Living Tribunal? The Living Tribunal wins! [citation needed] (Cuz there are none.) The One-Above-All sees and knows all -- he also has the ability to appear anywhere and everywhere at the same time and he exists beyond space and time. You do realise they have actually fought, Obvilion and Infinity, during Quasar # 25. Beyond pain. Lmao, you Marvel noobs don't know jack about abstract entities. @mr-luxcipher: Even classic LT can't take this one. Professor Xavier said "To the Beyonder, even, Molecule Man (Pre-Retcon; He has a box literally with the entire, First Firmament (It’s powerful enough to cage everything. The character of The One Above All was not introduced in comic book at the point of Secret Wars 1 and 2. This "space" in which there is no dimension can be the background for any dimensional space. Now this is just becoming idiotic.... @claymore1998: That's referring to hierarchy. Obvilion, however, is not. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. I am not sure why this is even a debate when we have, clear, unambigious details about Infinity and Obvilion, the counterpart being each other equal and Living tribunal being beyond that. In that case then you probably would have to get to rather higher levels. Also, those were not Oblivion and Infinity, they were avatars. No, my post is backed by everything Oblivion is; Non-existence. Has Oblivion received an amp of late? I was. It doesn’t mean that Oblivion is less powerful. Apparently responsible for the existence of all life in the Multiverse and possibly beyond, the One-Above-All is the master and sole superior of the cosmic overseer and arbitrator known as the Living Tribunal, whose faces, embodying equity, vengeance, and necessity respectively, are in perfect alignment with one another as it passes judgment. You can't destroy nothingness. ), Beyonder (Pre-Retcon; During the og 1984 Secret Wars, Galactus begged the Beyonder to end his hunger, and yet both Galactus and Doctor Doom were swatted like flies. Because I already covered that LT was only above him in the cosmic hierarchy, which I already discussed. Speed. Nowhere does that mention power. Sign Up Login. Michael Demiurgos vs The Living Tribunal. You just made that up actually. Between heaven and hell. The official Marvel Handbook states that Oblivion quite literally embodies non-existence. @claymore1998: For the record, you keep saying Oblivion and Infinity fought. And for the record canon Oblivion = Infinity via cosmic hierarchy which many Marvel wanna be know it alls act like judges power. One Above All vs The Living Tribunal. Oblivion: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/p4PnWF6IhWGYkgjvf2ZWAY54e6fftRzuFe8gF-DQzvfZu0ApHMpB7wpV79s3_7KInbMJc8z9kqSi=s0, Living Tribunal: https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/3/33916/1174517-all_new_official_handbook_of_the_marvel_universe_06_29.jpg. A 2006 bio will not mention a character that was not created in 2006. Sorry pardon my scepticism but I am beginning to wonder if people debating here for Oblivion are actually even acquainted with the said character other than a random Wikipedia entry or are familiar with marvel cosmic hierarchy and cannon? Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Beyonder actually went through another retcon, under Illuminity story by Micheal Bendis where he was stated to be an Inhuman. (Cuz there are none.) I have consciousness of what I am. There isn't a person the one above all couldn't easily beat because he is above every character that exists in marvel. You are indeed where you belong. It is the power of One above all and hence superior to LT. I'm pretty sure reality and spacetime warping powers are still contained to power levels. The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. Well there’s no perfect answer to this… but I would say Grand Priest. Heart of the Universe/Infinity is NOT a character. @claymore1998: Oblivion is simply indestructible. In that same scan, it says Oblivion is "subject to the LT's authority." If you love to imagine the planet-exploding battles of the fictional gods who will never be, taking pointless knowledge gathered from a life spent reading and gaming and swinging it like a gladiator's sword in discussions on reddit... then welcome home, my friend. (Oh and HOTU Thanos "existed" in 2003 I believe. He is the servant of TOAA and is a high hyperversal being. So it comes as no surprise that was not stated. Because I already covered that LT was only above him in the cosmic hierarchy, which I already discussed.

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